If Hornady's LEVERevolution ammo hasn't compelled you to give John Mahlon Marlin's classic big-game rifles another look, maybe the new .338 Marlin Express will. For 2014, Marlin is reintroducing four suspended offerings, including two .338 Marlin Express rifles, the 1895 Cowboy, and the .444 Marlin. Like I said, its a tack driver, and a very well-made rifle. Too late I made the mistake of getting one and I havent even fired it yet as there were some issues and I sent it back form part replacement. Theres no way a Marlin employee didnt notice what I noticed when I handled them.
Looks like Marlin is cutting loose slow sellers Too many couch commandos. Its been great on three deer so far. Winchester Model 94 .22 WMR: Famous Silhouette Rifle. Sorry but Henry did not make the first but I will grant you that they have heritageThe first lever action was made by Volcano Firearms and they were made with both cast iron and brass receiversAn old boss of mine owned one at one time and I think he told me there was less that 20 of them left in existence and his was the only one with a iron receiver.Winchester borrowed it from him and put it on display since they had never seen one with the iron receiverAlso Henrys are a decent firearm however I never bought one because I too felt that they were over priced even when I could getem for $300 back in the day I could get a Winchester for less.. Im not at liberty to identify the system, but we were under contract once to deliver a few systems (same items) to a foreign country along with the manufacturing drawings. While Marlin has made much of the solid-top receiver that, unlike Winchester's '94, readily accepts scopes, the 336 and 1895 both respond quicker with iron sights and seem more at ease. O'Connor's concept was a medium bore cartridge with moderate recoil that the average woods and brush hunter could use for shooting deer, feral hogs, black bear and possibly elk. Ive been wanting a stainless 336 for years, but couldnt because of precisely the damage we all know Remington has done. At 250 yards the velocity is 1507 fps and the energy is 1008 ft. lbs. Marlin is sending a pre-paid label to my FFL, who must go through the hassle of FedEx pickup, etc. Had to put a scope on it or it would shoot 8-10 When there was bad talk about you guys I wanted to give you a chance. Wants 550 for it. I should have bought the Winchester instead. Well I will put up my Henry Big Boy 44 mag up against any thing out there. Should they make it right? To my surprise my call was handled promptly and If it has a New York address on it we will not put it on our shelves, but we will order them if so asked. You can also check the serial number, if it has an RM prefix then it it a Remlin. Doesn't bode well for this cartridge either. With that being said, they had no business even starting the transfer without design and process verification between both facilities. I had a custom gun smith re-checker it, and add 1 inch to the butts length. It had a problem with the half-cock safety. The volcanic toggle action actually lived on through the 1876 model, but finally went away with the Browning-designed 1886. The .348 Winchester carries a wicked punch at the muzzle of the Model 71, and Winchester's 1895 rifle was chambered in .30-06. One of the guys I was with had a brand new Winchester Semi. Please refer to the photos as there is minor . This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Eother way they are great rifles and worth the price for a non-FG Marlin. This process was very painful for me, as it would be for anyone who is passionate about rifles.. Exceptional accuracy and overwhelming downrange terminal performance. I puchased a Marlin 336w that is flawless in finish and smooth in action. Looking back at it, Im probably better off that they couldnt even ship one damn lever rifle in 6 months. Ive seen some Marlins that have horrendous fit and finish and thats just what I can see on the outside. Good job! I paid something over $600 for a substandard rifle whose problems were not apparent until I got it home. I wouldnt mess with the other stuff. Frankly, no. This load uses a polymer tipped hunting round similar to that of Hornady's .338 Marlin Express", Hornady official .338 Marlin Express page with background info on cartridge, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.338_Marlin_Express&oldid=1056170907, 200gr (13g) FTX (Hornady Flex Tip Expanding), This page was last edited on 20 November 2021, at 05:22. At that point only the .30-30 and .32 Special remained. Its accuracy was disappointing. Fit and finish is solid, accuracy is very good, 500+ rounds through both rifles with NO malfunctions shooting everything from standard CCI, Remington Golden Bullet, Federal bulk,Winchester X, and CCI Mini-Mag. My gun guy just laughed and said hes been waiting for a henry 45/70 for a few months. September 4, 2015 Ive been hearing and reading some nonsense lately about how Remington has worked the bugs out on the Marlin/Remington lever guns (Remlins). which the stock is a beautiful almost reddish color laminated grains but the fore-end is totally off color and is no red at all and is more tan-brown???? I will test fire it at camp. I own two 336's in 30-30 and 35 Rem. The bad: The top of the bolt looks like it was milled with an angle grinder. They've taken this particular model/caliber out of production and after talking to Customer Service, have not indicated it will ever return??? But the older guns will always be what I will seek when I add to my collection. Im not buying the nonsense that Marlin didnt have any drawings. I guess they didnt have any calipers or micrometers either. The stock was also set higher than the receiver by about 1/8th in. I put it back in the box, paid, and left. I dont know if they were a closeout deal or what, but they were discounted reasonably (by Cabelas standards).
11 Great .338 Caliber Rifle Cartridges - Shooting Times You dont assume anything. While they lack the primary extraction power of the 98 Mauser and its derivatives, they can bottle 60,000 psi without strain. The wood to metal fit was wider than my thumbnail in thickness and the wood was splintered and not finished properly. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. My second Model 336 was the Texan with a straight-grip stock, which was the standard version.
Bear Rifles - CHUCKHAWKS.COM Heralded as "a new gun especially for American big game," the 1936 carbine featured a "solid frame, 20-inch round tapered special smokeless barrel; proof-tested, crown muzzle; Ballard-type rifling; visible hammer; case-hardened receiver; steel butt plate. Then you dont even have to model it. I didnt notice the magazine tube misalignment problem until after I had gotten the rifle home, and really started going over the fit and finish. Oh, yeah, a company the made the first practical and commercially successful lever-action repeating rifle in 1860 has no heritage. From time to time weve had glimpses of the doofuses (doofi?) "About all we can do to improve on the .308 Marlin Express is to increase case capacity and velocity. Further if you don't care about energy tables. The only changes Ive made to it is to add a Williams peep sight on the receiver, and a fiberoptic front sight of the right height to match the rear sight. After that point the .338 Marlin Express's projectile retains more energy than even the .450 Marlin. Marlin tried again in the early 2000s with the .308 and .338 Marlin Express. Gun #: 926415864. I chose the BL model because I wanted the 18 barrel and the big loop. Im not sure if mine is post FG or not. It wasnt just that he was wrong on the facts, which he was, it was also that he talked down to me about it and was incredibly dismissive. As for Winchester, I have shot a couple built before the turn of the last century and while they are excellent rifles neither was as smooth or as accurate as my old Marlins. To save Marlin from imploding, Remington invested both dollars and manpower in a multifaceted approach to achieve the kind of quality that had slipped during the transition. I thought O'Connor's concept was worth pursuing, and I wrote about it in several articles, including my rather detailed piece "New Woods Cartridge: The .338x57 O'Connor," which you can find on the Rifle Information Page. Now that I have made the necessary repairs to the magazine and forend and improved the sights, I have a pretty darn good general purpose truck gun / deer rifle/ hog-slayer / whatever you want to call it. For the guy asking about the 38/357s, I have a Winchester model 94 thats a good shooter, though Im not sure they are still in production? To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. They said I was insulting people. Marlin Camp 9mm when will it or something like it come back? Mazeltov. And smoothed out after a couple of hundred rounds. Fact is, I loved that Marlin rifle and hated to part with it but it was defective.
338 Marlin Express 200 gr FTX LEVERevolution I just purchased my first Marlin 1895 GS 45/70, not realizing that Remington acquired Marlin. They didnt do ANY of that. The biggest problem with the new Marlins is the horrible wood with badly pressed in checkering. product with defect made it into customers hands). No problem there. CALIBER: 338 Cal. Clearly no one had ever worked this action at the factory or anywhere else until this poor guy got it to the range. The key to its innovation and performance is the patented elastomer Flex Tip technology of the FTX and MonoFlex bullets. With Mitch Mittelstaedt and other colleagues, Dave narrowed his choice of bullet diameters. Henry Repeating Arms is not the same company as the maker of the original Henry 1860. At 400 they're down 23 1/2 and 25 1/2 inches, respectively. This was not my first bad experience with AAC the first being when the ratchet on that suppressor flew off while shooting it in a rural environment, which fortunately did not result in a baffle strike. Old machines well maintained are also not a problem. So here I go again, after plunking down $thousand for a rifle I have not yet fired after 7 weeks! The proceeds were donated to the Hunting & Shooting Sports Heritage Fund. Based loosely on the .376 Steyr cartridge, the new .338 Marlin Express hull carries a new Hornady 200-grain Flex-Tip bullet. Id be concerned about safety. The Marlin rifle chambered in .338 ME has a laminated stock, two-thirds magazine, swivel studs and a 24-inch barrel. I bought two marlin 22 LR for the boy scouts. service@guns.com Bad time to do that right now, I know, but wanted to look anyway. Supposed to be well-built, great design, but I think Henry and Browning both make better lever guns. Now some of the decent and knowledgeable help at Dicks will steer away from purchasing a Remlin, but this poor guy got hosed. During the last such .308 famine, I saw lots and lots of .30/30 ammunition sitting on store shelves all by its lonesome. The .338 Marlin Express was designed to produce performance similar to the .30-06 Springfield. Looks like the hiccups are a thing of the pastblast on boys!! I received return That gets a bit tougher. , .338 Marlin Express, .45-70 and .450 Marlin. You would have to make an ejector and all but I dont see how you are going to revive the caseless cartridge concept. Only action dimensions limit the 99 to short, rimless rounds. So the equipment was so bad they had to move to the Remington factory, but then they took the equipment How did moving benefit the the manufacturing process again? Hornady's great contribution to that hardware has been the "flex-tip" bullet in LEVERevolution ammunition. The bolt was smooth, trigger about 5lbs (a little heavy for a Marlin, but not bad at all.) At 100 yards the velocity is 1996 fps and the energy is 1770 ft. lbs. Just as Marlin created a bit of confusion when renaming the Model 1893 four times, so it went when the company decided to call the Model 336 in .45-70 the New Model 1895 in about 1972. I know that, over the years, the stock is going to get dinged up and the bluing will lose its depth or come off entirely in spots. You tell me who was right. Did anyone logic check Teddy Novins, statement? OK, you decide how to resolve the above issue. bought one marlin model 62 30 carbine levermatic from gunbrokers and it is perfect and shoots great came with 4 power scope.. Cant even recall when I bought it. The softer tip eliminates the hazards of stacking pointed rounds end to end in a tubular magazine. Give a Gift
did not. He was forced to cock the hammer manually and then work the lever to chamber a round. BTW, Ive bought three Marlin .22s in the past three years: each has been quite good and, for my money, a slightly better deal than the Ruger .22 rifle I also bought. After spending some money at the gunsmith to try to get it straightened out, I finally had to send it back. The gun was shipped uninspected from a warehouse in Memphis to my FFL dealer yesterday. The shorter case has about 3.5 percent less capacity, but Hornady more than makes up for the difference by loading the same type of special propellant in the .308 Marlin Express as the company loads in its Light Magnum family of ammunition (which is slated to be discontinued; see Wayne van Zwoll's article on the new Superformance ammo in this . It consistently performs flawlessly & is extremely accurate. SO PLEASE NEVER BUY ONE OF THESE THINGS. Our first season bear tags take eight years to get. The reason the Remington people now own and manufacture Marlins. The deluxe version of the Texan has a fancy walnut stock, machine-cut engraving, and a gold-colored trigger. In 2005, the Model 336 hit a milestone. This action froze open when worked and the hammer had to be manually depressed to un-jamn the bolt every single time. Browning's long-action BLR Lightweight '81, with its rotating, front-locking bolt head and detachable box magazine, can accommodate belted magnum rounds as long and energetic as the .300 Winchester Magnum. Their lawyers sent me a letter and a check for a full refund rather than fix it. I never gave them the chance, and with good reason. Everything on the Remlin from the cheap blackened UNCHROMED bolt to the cheap ugly blackened unblued steel, to the poorly fitted screws that protruded where they were recessed on the real Marlin to the crude chunky birch stock just screamed POS. Today im picking up my new thumper, and apparently the box says for Jason on it. The 2007 introduction of the .308 Marlin Express, the result of a joint effort by Hornady and Marlin, brought forth a new case that could be adapted to a .338 O'Connor type cartridge. All rights reserved. Ive recently bought a Marlin and two Henrys. All the crap rifles should be immediately recalled.
338 MARLIN EXPRESS New and Used Price, Value, & Trends 2023 I knew the sights would be marginal going in, and had planned to upgrade them and add a 1.5-5x scout scope anyway, so I dont really have any complaints about that.
Why I Like a Lever-Action Rifle for Deer Hunting Their QC on muzzle devices to mount their own suppressor sucks one out of three of their flashhiders I purchased was so out of spec that you couldnt get the suppressor onto the rifle. I have to say, in the end you guys did the right thing and I love the replacement rifle. I felt so bad for this guy. Im a college educated man with a fair amount of shooting experience, and I DO know what Im talking about. Lauderdale wouldnt let me inspect action with the trigger lock off. And not happily, as I recall. When I contacted Remington directly by email with the serial number of my rifle to find out its date of manufacture suspecting that it was an early Remlin I was assured that my rifle was manufactured in late 2016.. SIX YEARS AFTER Remington moved the Marlin plant to its new facility, and TWO YEARS after Remington announced that they had gotten their QC problems under control with the new dimensional drawings and had begun re-releasing other older models. Make sure to watch till the end. New equipment for these lines has been purchased and is operational. What It Is Not. I was not sure about getting the Marlins due to the negative feedback from the Remington acquisition. He felt that this would make an excellent brush cartridge for the deer and black bear hunter, particularly if available in a repeating rifle that offered quick follow-up shots. WOW, I went to three different gun stores and handled the model 336. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. That is probably the only good news out of sandy hook. . My son and younger brother both use 336s in the 30.30 caliber. Certainly a .338 wildcat based on the .308 Marlin case is likely, almost inevitable, when .308 Marlin brass becomes available. And Henrys customer service is most excellent. All Rights Reserved. Now people are either hanging on to them or they are being bought up. Remember the line in the movie Schindlers List, where he says (paraphrased ". The difference: RCM rounds can deliver those speeds from 20-inch barrels. Im the proud owner of a Henry 45-70, and the rifle is a gorgeous tack driver at 150yds with 325gr. Buy a MARLIN FIREARMS CO 338 MX BlueWalnut 22'' Barrel TRADE see additional info Sorry so long winded. The 338MXLR features a side cartridge ejection port, a hammer block safety and stainless steel receiver, barrel, lever, trigger guard plate, magazine tube and loading gate. I ran the (estimated) numbers and found that a .338 Marlin rifle weighing 8 pounds and shooting a 200 grain bullet at a MV of 2400 fps should generate about 19 ft. lbs. How could I possibly rig that? For everyones information, as a mechanical engineer with 30 years of experience I can tell you that NO ONE makes production-line mechanical devices without properly dimensioned and toleranced drawings. |
Alternatively, when I decided I wanted a really nice .22 LR, I bought a Henry lever action rifle in that caliber.
338MXLR :: Guns.com Marlin replaced my 336SS. I own two Marlins. First Focal Plane vs. Second Focal Plane Scopes Explained: Which is Best? Older Marlins Ive handled were not nearly so stiff at the loading gate. Yes, back when Marlin had a little thing called pride in workmanship, and quality control. The .338 Marlin Express is a cartridge developed by Marlin Firearms and Hornady. Thankfully, internet gun forums arrived to endthe information blackout. Same goes for Remington. In the old days, it was not uncommon to see a Model 336 in a saddle scabbard out West, but more were carried by easterners for woods hunting, and they were quite happy with the .30-30 and other close-range cartridges. What Big-Green has been doing for the last 20 years. I will support the product until it disappoints! (Ret.) 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. These are reports are from 2013 and 2014. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. The new cartridge, dubbed the .338 Marlin Express, measures 2.60 inches as factory loaded. The right stock has a tiny gap where it butts up. Together, the .338 Marlin Express and .308 Marlin Express are a deadly one-two punch capable of taking any game animal in North America. The 1.89-inch semi-rimmed case has a 25-degree shoulder, a base diameter of .553. Today everyone wants things to happen by next week. The old flat mainspring was replaced by a coil mainspring, and the shape of the bolt was changed from rectangular to round. Ill never forget the time we were out quail hunting. Despite what I knew, I tried to get an 1895 SBL anyway. Marlins Back And Its Bad! Specifically, the one Ive done the most to, Ive replaced several parts on a 50s model Ishapoor (just wanted an SMLE in .308) rifle, without a care in the world, just ordered what I craved from SARCO Ive replaced these parts not due to FTF issues, but because Im not willing to have the rifle in-op while refinishing various bits for cosmetics. Last edited on 20 November 2021, at 05:22, 338 Marlin Express LEVERevolution at Hornady web site, C.I.P. Seller is on-line and there is a 3-day inspection. Although the heavy bullet weight of these cartridges allow them more muzzle energy, the ballistic advantage of the .338 Marlin Express's projectile begins to show beyond 100 yards. Both are POS in my humble opinion. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. This possibility was brought to my attention by Guns and Shooting Online reader Jon Huffman. Furniture is walnut, nice but not fancy. Agreed. The New Model 1895 is also back in full production, and quite a few variations are offeredall in .45-70. But I repeat.BE CAREFUL before you walk out the door with that Marlin, or you may not like what you see when you get home. document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Copyright Hornady, Privacy Policy | CCPA Request | Accessibility Policy | Terms of Use, Designed and developed by IdeaBank Marketing. Id let about ten thousand optimists beta test the new, new, NEW! Marlin rifles before I would even think of buying one. Stay in the know. This round was designed with an elastomer tip, so that the .338 projectile would be safe for use in the tubular magazines of lever-action rifles. They can maybe come back, but do you think a management team that was able to make such a colossal string of blunders has the ability to salvage the name and win back customer trust? You see the lever was not throwing the bolt back far enough to cock and seat the hammer. All of Hornady's new for 2009 products are covered in this year's. Even though Im an engineer and not an MBA, even I know that. But it did apply to the system we were delivering. . It is a. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. The trajectory and killing power are excellent for our purposes, but what about recoil? Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. The TORO (Taurus Optics Ready Option) is touted as the first-ever optics-ready revolver, and being a sucker for red dots and handguns, I had to try it. The workpieces go onto the first machines in the line and when the workpieces come off a machine, then get moved to the next one. Soon after Marlin discovered in 1972 that the Model 336 action would handle the .45-70, .444 Marlin sales began a gradual decline. Therefore, FG moved the crap equipment and left most of the craftsmen behind. When I graduated from high school, some of my classmates got expensive gifts from their parents for graduating expensive cameras, their first car, etc., etc. At .30, the neck might seem a bit short of ideal by traditional handloading standards, but given limits imposed by the action, it's surely long enough. They still make the Winchester 94s (built by Miroku in Japan), but I think the new ones are only available in .30-30 and .38-55, not in any of the pistol calibers. So, in terms of killing power, the .338 Marlin Express is a 200 yard elk cartridge and a 300 yard deer cartridge with the Hornady 200 grain flat point bullet at a MV of 2400 fps. Truly the ultimate choice for big game out to long range, it's the latest ballistic achievement . Actually, that was Volcanic, a company founded by Messrs. Smith and Wesson along with a stockholder named Winchester, and the guns were an abject failure as they fired a rocket ball, an elongated bullet with a hollow space in the rear for a small powder charge and a pellet of mercury fulminate to set it off when the striker hit itno cartridge case. At the range it jammed on my first cartridge, so hard you could not move the lever. Ramp up production on the .357 and .44 mag carbines to bring them to the same price point as the .30-30s and you will make a lot of people very happy. He wanted to drive a 200 grain flat point or round nose bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2400-2450 fps. Great knock down power. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. And theres no getting around it: Marlin should have shut down manufacturing completely during thistransition. The company has done major damage to the brand by selling thousands of crap guns. It had taken an hour to cut the old Ballard-style rifling with the scrape-cutter method, but a barrel could be rifled in only a few seconds with the button method. You are using an out of date browser. Now they have my rifle in repair and wont answer my questions or their phones. We have had Remington bolt guns with sand paper actions, bad finishes, sharp rough machine edges on the outside of the receiver, you name it. These machines are set up to do this operation, theyre going to do only that operation, which means that theyre not changed. We even had a carbon 15 rifle with so many bubbles and lumps in the upper receiver it looked like it had chicken pocks, how the heck dose someone miss that. Ive been involved in transferring manufacturing processes and equipment oversees (from Asia back to Texas in my case) and its never easy. Ill never by a new one. For 1860, the Henry was a mechanical marvel; For 2014, they would be disastersdangerous, weak, heavy, and fragile. The deluxe version of the Texan has a fancy walnut stock, machine-cut engraving, and a gold-colored trigger. But with about 250 rounds through it and a switch to Tetra grease on the bolt and hammer, it is significantly smoother than new. $2,300 is a bit much for any rifle in that class, truthfully. I had and still want one. Well, Remington was EXPECTED to produce a rifle that was true to the fit and finish and accuracy of pre-Remlin Marlins. They also dont come in Stainless. It has a 20-inch barrel, and its walnut stock and forearm have generous checkering coverage. But do you know how to properly use them? with a muzzle velocity of 2565fps and energy of 2921 this bullet retains Thanks for that. There is lots of info on the Marlinowners forum and elsewhere on-line about how to distinguish the pre-Freedom Group Marlins from the newer Remlins by serial numbers and stampings.